простите моё любопытство, просто Вы так выразились, как будто хорошо знакомы с форумной историей.
Вы раньше на РМ-форумах были под каким-то другим никнеймом зарегистрированы ?
А то я Вас по футбольному мячу что-то не узнаю.
это так Иисус Христос говорил: «не выкидывайте остатки жертвенного мяса, приносимого в Храм, собакам. А то они будут бегать вокруг Храма в большом количестве и мешать нормальным людям. Не кидайте жемчуга перед свиньями».
Думаю, если кто-то из зрителей того ролика вдохновился РозойМира, то он доберется до этого форума и прочитает, как оно было на самом деле.
Я в теме РМ с 2017. Можно сказать новичок)))) НО!!! Перечитывал все форумы! Все! Не раз. [Ну разве что кроме Маяка].
Прям штудировал!
А так я Рэнцо. Рэнцо Барбэра.
не помню, наверно это на ws вы так были...
Вы мужчина или женщина ?
Оффтоп
Рэнцо от Лорэнцо. Муж конечно.
А на авке богиня футбола: Balletrix.
Я просто метил в тренеры юношеской сборной США, перед тем как наткнуться на РМ в интернетах, что радикально поменяло траекторию моей жизни.
А на авке богиня футбола: Balletrix.
Я просто метил в тренеры юношеской сборной США, перед тем как наткнуться на РМ в интернетах, что радикально поменяло траекторию моей жизни.
Фэруччио, I feel like we got off on the wrong footing when we first debated on here, I wasn't aware that the other English translation was misleading.
Admittedly, it's true that very few will comprehend RM, let alone understand its essence. Andreev identified the following three as fundamentals to grasp, the prerequisite to studying transphysics: “suprapeople”, “metaculture”, “transmyth”
I think RM can be presented differently. It starts off with the historical context for when the book was written, combined with a strong anti-dictatorship stance. But how many will concern themselves with his viewpoints on culture, science, religion?
Today, there are many people accepting claims from Avi Loeb, without inquiring into his views, conception of God, ethical attitude. He lacks an instinct for superphysical realities, remains a physicalist and his idea of God's limited to seeing him as a man in a labcoat. Without a world view based on higher realities, he lacks sufficient grounds to make claims about the universe, 3i Atlas, etc. And while he has much merit in drawing attention to anomalies, raising awareness, his hypothesis is premature, untenable, difficult to maintain. There is simply not enough facts/data, just speculations.
Right now, the priority should be reintroducing people into Nature, bringing them in contact with the animals, while inculcating a belief in the elementals of the Light (nature spirits). It's only a matter of time before summer and winter are swapped and the sun/moon are no longer useful for keeping track of time, making it difficult to determine when the nature spirits are more active.
The scientists' future discovery of the worlds of nature spirits marks a turning point: «The first mass experience of the transphysical side of reality was the revelation of the omnipresent arungvilta-prana [ether].» He also said he was waiting for scientists to discover that «one of the classes of emanations belongs to the layer of certain elementals [nature spirits] in nature.» For this, it's necessary for people to develop etheric sight, to be able to diagnose diseases with a look, ascertain the material composition of objects, etc. Then they can assist scientists document the process of death.
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Perhaps DA's book's contents can be rearranged. For instance, the part about toys being alive/coming to life seems out of place, it may just be a stumbling block to new readers, distracts from the animal topic. The part about insects having collective shelts/souls/beings is also difficult for new readers to grasp. It seems like both could be transferred to one chapter containing everything pertaining to the shelt, with footnotes in the animal kingdom chapter referring readers there. Or include a glossary of terms at least.
Here's what a Russian lady told me, «Вы укрепили меня в моем желании вернуться к этой непростой книге. Главу о животных помню, читала, я тогда залипла на ней надолго. Вот тогда я усомнилась в том, стоит ли продолжать читать книгу, потому как это казалось мне неправдоподобным (попросту мне хватало знаний). Но наша реальность так стремительно меняется, что теперь и ‘невозможное возможно’. Там много всего конечно, про детские игрушки тоже было интересно.»
Admittedly, it's true that very few will comprehend RM, let alone understand its essence. Andreev identified the following three as fundamentals to grasp, the prerequisite to studying transphysics: “suprapeople”, “metaculture”, “transmyth”
I think RM can be presented differently. It starts off with the historical context for when the book was written, combined with a strong anti-dictatorship stance. But how many will concern themselves with his viewpoints on culture, science, religion?
Today, there are many people accepting claims from Avi Loeb, without inquiring into his views, conception of God, ethical attitude. He lacks an instinct for superphysical realities, remains a physicalist and his idea of God's limited to seeing him as a man in a labcoat. Without a world view based on higher realities, he lacks sufficient grounds to make claims about the universe, 3i Atlas, etc. And while he has much merit in drawing attention to anomalies, raising awareness, his hypothesis is premature, untenable, difficult to maintain. There is simply not enough facts/data, just speculations.
Right now, the priority should be reintroducing people into Nature, bringing them in contact with the animals, while inculcating a belief in the elementals of the Light (nature spirits). It's only a matter of time before summer and winter are swapped and the sun/moon are no longer useful for keeping track of time, making it difficult to determine when the nature spirits are more active.
The scientists' future discovery of the worlds of nature spirits marks a turning point: «The first mass experience of the transphysical side of reality was the revelation of the omnipresent arungvilta-prana [ether].» He also said he was waiting for scientists to discover that «one of the classes of emanations belongs to the layer of certain elementals [nature spirits] in nature.» For this, it's necessary for people to develop etheric sight, to be able to diagnose diseases with a look, ascertain the material composition of objects, etc. Then they can assist scientists document the process of death.
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Perhaps DA's book's contents can be rearranged. For instance, the part about toys being alive/coming to life seems out of place, it may just be a stumbling block to new readers, distracts from the animal topic. The part about insects having collective shelts/souls/beings is also difficult for new readers to grasp. It seems like both could be transferred to one chapter containing everything pertaining to the shelt, with footnotes in the animal kingdom chapter referring readers there. Or include a glossary of terms at least.
Here's what a Russian lady told me, «Вы укрепили меня в моем желании вернуться к этой непростой книге. Главу о животных помню, читала, я тогда залипла на ней надолго. Вот тогда я усомнилась в том, стоит ли продолжать читать книгу, потому как это казалось мне неправдоподобным (попросту мне хватало знаний). Но наша реальность так стремительно меняется, что теперь и ‘невозможное возможно’. Там много всего конечно, про детские игрушки тоже было интересно.»
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Jeremiah, No worries, my friend.
Did u have chance to read the whole ROTW, I mean, the translations available on this forum?
You know, the saddest part is, that the two other MAIN works of Andreev, his poetic ensemble 'Russian Gods' and the 'Iron Mystery', plus the Leeds' scrapbooks, are not available in any other language but Russian, and hardly will ever be. Although, some messages in various forums include information about those works, which cd be very useful to the fellow interested ppl.
The information in those other works of Andreev, as well as in his poems is worthless. Not only the ROTW contains groundbreaking info, but also Andreev's poems do. That's why our dear Maksim always encourages the adepts to not neglect reading the poetic works of Andreev.
Did u have chance to read the whole ROTW, I mean, the translations available on this forum?
You know, the saddest part is, that the two other MAIN works of Andreev, his poetic ensemble 'Russian Gods' and the 'Iron Mystery', plus the Leeds' scrapbooks, are not available in any other language but Russian, and hardly will ever be. Although, some messages in various forums include information about those works, which cd be very useful to the fellow interested ppl.
The information in those other works of Andreev, as well as in his poems is worthless. Not only the ROTW contains groundbreaking info, but also Andreev's poems do. That's why our dear Maksim always encourages the adepts to not neglect reading the poetic works of Andreev.
Adepts is not the best word
Andreev's poetry is interesting itself, without connection with the concept of RofW. Reading the drafts, he had the the poetic genius when he was a brahmin in India.Ну скажем так, их мало. И поскольку людей с открытой, с хорошо открытой сердечной чакрой, обычно печалят любые разборки, долго на РМ форумах они не задерживаются...
Всерьез оценивать насколько у Максима открыта сердечная чакра я бы не взялся, кто я такой.
Просто немного срезонировало, когда он описал портрет человека, мне что-то это напомнило его самого...
Если же брать РМ-сообщество в целом, то — к моему глубокому огорчению — действительно преобладает восприятие «Розы мира» через логику.
Казалось бы — как так, ведь для такого учения интуитивно образное, чувственно-сердечное восприятие было бы более естественным и более полным — но нет. «Розу» воспринимают через логику, порой кажется что даже только через логику — если возьмем Алексея Кольцова и его статьи, где там сердце?
Ну и в целом по форумам если брать, проблески настоящей открытости, душевных моментов хоть и встречаются, но очень редки...
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